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It has been a long time since I complained about poor grammar, but a couple of commercials on television have just gotten under my skin lately.

After [livejournal.com profile] mummm posted the link to the article about Birmingham, England eliminating the apostrophe from street signs, it's been difficult to rein in my frustration. According to the man who made the final decision, apostrophes are 'confusing'! Huh??? How confusing can the TWO main rules be? It's not like the COMMA that has a gazillion uses. Sheesh!

But, this post isn't about the apostrophe - although I could write a whole essay on that mistake. No, this post is about when to use less and when to use fewer. How difficult can it be? Not very.

Use less as the adjective if the noun canNOT be numbered. Less talk, more action...less milk, more cereal....less reading, lower test scores. Use fewer as the adjective if the noun can be numbered. FEWER commercials...FEWER mistakes...FEWER idiots! There is a cable movie network that advertises it shows MORE movies and LESS commercials. Helllllllooooooo?! I can't remember what the other ad is for right now (maybe an insurance company), but the ad writers make the same mistake. Both drive me straight up the wall.

You do NOT want me to get started on farther/further. ;)

While I'm ranting let me just say that for the last few years I've noticed a decided downward trend in students' general knowledge, creativity, analysis skills and the ability to think. My first year at the school where I teach now was a culture shock. I'd just come from years in inner-city schools, and my expectations weren't very high. The ability of the students that first year seemed to outstretch any student I'd taught in the twenty previous years. I thought they were brilliant. Then I taught gifted students for two years and after having raised my expectations, I was sorely disappointed that the AIG kids were only a notch or two ahead of the regular ed kids (I will say that there were a handful of brilliant students in the first AIG class I taught). Since then it's been downhill all the way.

The only conclusion I can draw from this is that the No Child Left Behind act (passed in 2001) has further ruined public education. Padding grades, dumbing down classes, passing students to the next grade even when they haven't earned any grade above an F, not holding students accountable...products of NCLB.

I realize that the ad writers for the cable network were not the beneficiaries of NCLB - they are just ignorant - but when all is said and done, NCLB has made matters worse, not better.

I teach with the mother of one of my former AIG students. T is just about the brightest kid I ever taught, but he is failing senior Advanced Placement English for a variety of reasons. He told his mother that he wished he could take my eighth grade English class again as a refresher course because he hasn't learned anything since then. Yes, that made me feel good, but it also made me sad. What are we doing to our kids???

/rant

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Date: 2009-02-02 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mummm.livejournal.com
Oh dear... and grammar has never been one of my strong points!

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Date: 2009-02-02 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deltamiss.livejournal.com
I've never noticed any gross errors in your grammar. ;)

It's just that if one is going to write for a living, one should have a working knowledge of the rules of grammar, don't you think?

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Date: 2009-02-02 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mummm.livejournal.com
Oh heck yes!

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Date: 2009-02-03 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jcjava.livejournal.com
I have horrible grammar, in writing at least, and can not spell. However, I do try and learn and use what I know, and would never hold myself out as a writer.

BTW thanks for the lesson. I have just recently learned how to correctly use who and whom (from my son no less ) and this is another notch on pencil for grammar. Thanks!

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Date: 2009-02-03 09:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deltamiss.livejournal.com
I really don't mind the grammar errors in conversations (even on LJ), but professionals should know better.

Bwahahahahahahaha! Keep notching that pencil! Love it! :D

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Date: 2009-02-03 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torainfor.livejournal.com
Oh, it's not just England. I read recently that the national parks are going to completely phase out the use of apostrophes because (get this) it infers possessiveness.

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Date: 2009-02-03 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torainfor.livejournal.com
Oh, and at the YMCA the other week, I saw a flier for an art class that listed the "supply's" students would need.

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Date: 2009-02-03 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deltamiss.livejournal.com
I have a student now who puts an apostrophe before EVERY S - even in the middle of a word. :(

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Date: 2009-02-03 09:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deltamiss.livejournal.com
Oh, yes, I know it's (oops, there it is) being debated in the U.S., too. And, DUH. It doesn't imply possession, it INDICATES it! ;)

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Date: 2009-02-03 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jazzyglo.livejournal.com
Preach it, Lonnye Sue!

I can't believe some of the stuff I hear come out of the mouths of today's students! I'm not a grammar pro or anything...in fact, I'm pretty sure I've misused less and fewer...but it makes me sad to see how kids aren't being taught the basic rules of grammar anymore.

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Date: 2009-02-03 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deltamiss.livejournal.com
Love the icon! Hahahahahahaha!

Conversational errors don't really bother me, but professionals should know better. They are the ones who set examples. :(

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Date: 2009-02-03 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bojojoti.livejournal.com
Everyone errs from time to time. What horrifies me is the attitude that it doesn't matter. It does!

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Date: 2009-02-03 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deltamiss.livejournal.com
It's the professionals' errors that get to me. I can overlook errors in everyday conversations.

Yes, the apathetic attitude about grammar really bothers me, too. We are becoming illiterate before my very eyes. :/

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Date: 2009-02-03 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bojojoti.livejournal.com
Oop! Must be my bedtime!

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Date: 2009-02-19 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boodgieman.livejournal.com
You do NOT want me to get started on farther/further. ;)

Do tell! :D

Confession time: despite degrees in English and communication, I still get farther and further confused. Isn't that awful? It's so bad, sometimes I'll rewrite so that I don't have to use either.

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Date: 2009-02-19 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deltamiss.livejournal.com
Welcome, fellow Southerner! :D

Let's see. Farther is used when measuring distance. For every other possibility, use further. ;)

My journal isn't nearly as interesting as you may think. I'm somewhat redundant in my posts. ;)

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